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2006.10.15

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stuart

2006 Nov 17

Re: Board's Responsibility for Maintenance

When you belong to a property owners association and the director of the board only takes care of the property up to the end of his property line but the whole associations pays for this like for example landscaping what recourse does the other members have?

=====Reply=====
2006 Nov 22

After checking the governing documents for your association to understand what is and is not supposed to be done, write a letter to the board requesting the action consistent with the governing documents. Check my post,
Thoughts on Problem Solving for CIDs/POAs, for additional ideas to address the problem.

Don Nordeen

Diana Sewell

2007 Apr 03

Re: Mis-Use of this Statement of Rights

We have a couple in our Condo. that is using this Bill Of rights to dissolve our Rules and Regulation and to try and revamp our elected board of Nine people from our community, Am I missing something here is this what you are advocating? we have a meeting Sat. to vote on this. Please reply they are using your article as their guide.

Diana

=====Reply=====

2007 Apr 03

Ms. Sewell:

What you describe appears to be an improper use of my post, Statement of Rights. Please read the Welcome and Home page which describes the purpose of the weblog.

The Statement of Rights does include a number of references including court opinions that may or may not be applicable to your situation.


Don Nordeen

Rita Hellmann

2008 June 30

Re: Board Withholding Information

How do I find out why a board of directors would withhold information about the annual statement from an owner?? Also why the same directors would not send the annual statement and date of meeting letter to the owner when they sent the directors a letter of same with a self addressed stamped envelope enclosed.
This is rather odd don't you agree?

Thanks,
Rita Hellmann

====Reply====
2008 Jul 07

Dear Ms. Hellmann,

Don't be surprised at such behavior. Information is power, so it is hoarded by people who view the information as threatening and embarrassing. The short answer is they cover it up.

The expert on this behavior is Chris Argyris, a retired Harvard professor who has researched and written extensively on the subject. Do an internet search with the terms in [ ] including the quotation marks: ["chris argyris" "cover up"]. Or access the paper "Organizational Development / Action Science / Chris Argyris"
at < www.actionscience.com/actinq.htm > which provides a good summary. Scroll down to the The Basic Defensive Reasoning Pattern.

The withholding of information is a strong indication of more fundamental problems. The withholding is likely part of a cover up.

I have deleted your phone number to prevent its misuse. My policy is to protect "personally identifiable information".

Don Nordeen

Gary Ross

2008 Jul 29

Re: Mandatory Charge from Association for Cable TV

I live in a single family community with 300 homes in Florida. Until April1, 2008, we (the poa) had a cable contract with Adelphia. In October of 2007, a representative from Comcast came to a poa meeting offering a set price if most (about 80%) of the residents were to sign up. This Comcast representative insisted the only deal Comcast offered to poas' was for 5 years.

The residents had the option of opting out if we weren't interested (but at a later date we would not be offered the same deal the other residents were offered) and could arrange for our own cable or satellite service.
The following day I phoned Comcast and was assured they do not insist on 5 year contracts and would accommodate a poa based upon our specific needs for virtually any time frame.

Approximately 20 residents opted out and arranged for our own cable service.

Last week I received a letter from the property management company that although I opted out of the poa deal with Comcast, I was still obligated to pay for the service beginning April 2009.

Since we opted out of a deal we were not in favor of and the arrangement was established by the poa board and the property management company, are we obligated to subscribe to the same service?

Gary Ross

====Reply====
2008 August 09

Dear Mr. Ross,

Obligations for payments are probably in the restrictive covenants for your Common Interest Development. If payment for cable services or other fees not related to the CID is not authorized in the restrictive covenants, then the association likely does not have the authority to collect a fee without agreement from the owner/member.

You should also check the bylaws which may also contain authorizations for fees. Is approval of members required?

At this point a course of action would be to write a letter to the board requesting the authority of the association to collect fees for cable service.

Don Nordeen

====Further Reply====
2008 Aug 20

A newspaper article provides further information, "Homeowners who are forced into cable TV-Internet deals aren't happy", at
http://www.tampabay.com/news/business/realestate/article773732.ece

I am puzzled as to how the Owners Association can obligate the Owners unless the authority is in the CC&Rs.

Don Nordeen

Rita Hellmann

2009 Jan 28

Re: Mailing of Information from POA to all Owners/Members

2008.06.30 at 01:50 my last post.

The Board of Directors refrains from mailing my copy of Annual Statement and letter to attend the Annual Home Owners Meeting when I am an owner:

The same board of directors of the area I live here in Indianapolis still refrain from mailing my copy of the Annual Statement and my copy of the letter to attend Annual Home Owners meeting to date.

They say I am not an owner but my name and my mother's name are signed to the mortgage for my property. They need to mind their own business.

How do I get them to continue to send my copy of the Annual Statement that I need to see where MY MONEY is really going and the letter for the Annual Home Owners Meeting to me. I am on Social Security Disability and this is the reason they continue to discriminate me and not acknowledge I am an owner. They knew I was an owner when I moved here in 1990. I was not on Social Security Disability when I moved here as I had jobs up until the time my hips went bad and had to have total hip replacement surgery. Is this not discrimination?

Thank you for your help.

Rita Hellmann

Jeri Ann Neu

2009 Sep 24

Re: Reinstate POA

I am looking to get a petition started for a new poa. We are property owners of a small lake community in Ste Genevieve Mo...formerly known as Rocky Ridge Ranch. We lost our poa to the new owners of what is now called Grayhawk. We pay our assessments and find that not only have we lost many anemities but also don't seem to have any voting rights. How can we get back our POA? It seems that the new owners of our community have all the votes but do not pay on each lot separate that they hold.

Jeri Ann Neu

====Reply====
Dear Ms. Neu,

Re: Your Question re Reinstate POA posted on Governance of POA

I am not an attorney, so this is not legal advice. You have not provided enough information for an effective reply, but below are a few observations.

If the Rocky Ridge Ranch development includes recorded restrictive covenants, or CC&Rs, then those remain in force even with new development owners. You infer that any CC&Rs were rescinded by the new owners, which is probably not true. Rescinding the CC&Rs would likely require approval of all the owners of property units within Rocky Ridge Ranch. Further, the CC&Rs likely established the POA which should still be in force, but may require renewal as a nonprofit corporation if annual reports and fees were not filed with the state.

Collect all the governing documents and read them very carefully. You may need to consult with an attorney who may be able to deal effectively with the new owners. It sounds to me that the new owners are taking advantage of the owners of Rocky Ridge Ranch.

Don Nordeen

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