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2005.08.01

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Bill Marsh

2008 Apr 24

Did this bill (HOUSE BILL 1477) ever pass? I see this as long over due when some Boards are out of control.

Bill Marsh

====Reply====
2008 Apr 26

I don't know. I posted the information on the bill because the content seemed right. It appeared to address common problems. Perhaps someone has checked and can add a comment on the status.

Don Nordeen

Wardell

2008 May 13

Dear Sir;

I would like to know if our HOA fails to have a quorum at the annual meeting, can they continue to conduct regular meetings without have another annual meeting.

Thanks

Mr. Wardell

Wardell

====Reply====
2008 Jun 14

Likely, the law in your state requires an annual meeting. Without a quorum, there is no meeting.

My understanding is that the board is obligation to notice the annual meeting again ASAP. If your bylaws permit proxies that can be counted against the quorum, the notice should recommend that members use proxies if they can't attend. To avoid abuse of proxies, I recommend that proxies be directed (specific instructions) rather than general (proxy holder decides).

Of course, the business of the association has to continue.

Don Nordeen

Tom Koecher

2008 May 13

In response to Bill Marsh's question above, it appears that HB 1477 was passed into law although several parts were amended. For instance, Sec. 2 RCW 64.38.035 (2) above prohibited "electronic communications or any other form of communication that does not allow all owners and their authorized agents to observe the action". This provision is not currently part of the law so it appears that it was stricken before a final vote.

The full text of the current WA HOA law (RCW 64.38)can be found at the following URL:

http://apps.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=64.38

I understand the restriction against "electronic meetings" is still being debated.

Tom Koecher

dianne

2008 Jun 10

please keep me informed

diane

====Reply====
2008 Jun 16

My original post on the Washington HOA bill was current when posted, and was posted as an example of what is being considered by one state. If anyone from Washington has an update, please send by email (click on "email me" near the top of left column) with the current status. I will add the update to this post. Thanks.

Don Nordeen

Arlene

2008 August 09

Does a HOA need to have elections for the Board of Directors (ie: President, VP, Secretary, Treasurer). If they are not elected and just hold the position for several years at a time, is our HOA really abiding by the state laws? I have heard that if they are doing this, they are not abiding by the laws and makes our HOA illegal and no longer an association. Is this true? Do we still need to pay our HOA dues? Any advise will be helpful. Thank you.

Arlene

====Reply====
2008 August 09

Dear Arlene,

You should check the law in your state under which your HOA is incorporated — likely a nonprofit corporation act. It likely requires election of directors but may not specify terms of office and staggering of election of directors. That information is likely in the bylaws for your HOA. I would expect that annual elections are required for staggered terms.

The bylaws specify when the terms of board members expire. If they continue to act as a board member after expiration, the actions of the board could be invalid. In any event, the votes of people who are no longer board members don't count.

The validity of the association depends upon filing the necessary annual report with the state and the application for renewal of incorporation. The "commence" department of your state likely has a website providing status of all corporations.

The requirement to pay dues is probably in the restrictive covenants.

A group of members should make it clear that the elections are required immediately.

Don Nordeen

Larry Amundson

2008 Nov 18

The fact that our homeowner's board, which is the Surfside Homeowner's Association or SHOA, can pass all budgets and special assessments by invoking the non vote is a yes vote means we are living in a dictatorship. Shades of Sadam Hussein or other countries. I would urge all member's of all associations to fight this restrictive voting practice.

Larry Amundson

wanda sherman

2009 Apr 22

Approval of Fee Schedule

Does the president of homeowners association have the right to pass a fee schedule without introducing it to homeowners first?

wanda sherman

====Reply===
2009 May 03

It depends upon the provisions in the law and the governing documents. Since the board is generally given a blanket authority to manage the affairs of the association, approval of the members is not required unless specifically stated in the law and governing documents.

I doubt that the president would have such authority though the board of directors might.

Don Nordeen

Anita McKee

2009 Sep 12

Re: Authority for Fines

Can our HOA board of directors assess fines for non compliance of CC&R's if there are no provisions for fines in the CC&R's? Also, if last year's board of directors makes a decision regarding a dispute between homeowners, does the next year's board of directors have authority to override the previous boards decisions?
A. McKee

====Reply====
2009 Oct 08

Dear Ms. McKee,

I am not an attorney so this is not legal advice. The association's authority is limited to what is authorized in the governing documents. If the CC&Rs do not authorize fines, then the association cannot fine an owner for non-compliance with CC&Rs. The course of action is the circuit court seeking an injunction and possible corrective actions.

Your second question likely depends upon the circumstances. If the dispute involves a violation of the CC&Rs, then the board's action is not relevant since the board has no authority to waive a violation.

Don Nordeen

Tony Sinclair

2009 Sep 19

Re: Rights under CC&Rs

My question is what regarding, what are my legal Personal property rights under Washington State Law, as a home owner under control of a Homeowners association.

In one case of reviewing our CC&R it is so iron clad that it states I can’t make any modifications to the interior of my residence with out the expressed approval of the Board or the ACC. “No Owner may make or install any improvements within the Unit, modify the exterior of the House, garage or other improvements within the Unit or change any other portion of a Unit visible from outside the Unit, including the landscaping within the Unit, without the prior written consent of the ACC.”

So if you could please direct me to sources of Washington State Personal property Right Laws, or even Case law regarding my property rights as a home owner under a Homeowners Association in the state of Washington. Thanks

Tony Sinclair

=====Reply====
2009 Oct 08

I am not familiar with Washington laws. See http://www.communityassociations.net/washington_main.html. Also I am not an attorney, so this is not legal advice.

Generally, each owner is obligated to the provisions in the CC&Rs provided that the provisions are clearly stated. Most states require that ambiguities in the provisions be interpreted against the party seeking enforcement. Frequently, courts rule that provisions that are not clearly stated and do not have clear standards are not enforceable. Likely, the State of Washington published the cases of the Court of Appeals and the Supreme Court — also likely with an effective search engine.

For example, the statement, "No Owner may make or install any improvements within the Unit ..." lacks any clear standard and is likely not enforceable. The inside belongs to the owner. However, the exterior of the building in a condo typically is part of the common property with control by the association. Read your documents very carefully.

Don Nordeen

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